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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:51 pm |
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| Alex |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:29 am |
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| They all sound like they are being sung by the constapated cookie monster. |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:35 am |
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| Actually, that style of singing is genuinely called 'cookie monster vocals'. Look it up if you don't believe me! |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:35 am |
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Spare a thought for me.
I have to listen to this kind of thing everyday! |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:08 pm |
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| Scott wrote: | Spare a thought for me.
I have to listen to this kind of thing everyday! |
I know how you feel - trust me. |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:44 pm |
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| Scott wrote: | Spare a thought for me.
I have to listen to this kind of thing everyday! |
Scott says this, but he has a CD in his car composed almost entirely of music from my computer - with Rammstein and Metallica on it! |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:59 pm |
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| Alex |
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Actually, it's interesting the effect music taste has on people.
Studies have shown that men who listen to rap, for example, are more likely to show violent behaviour and commit sexual crimes. Women who listen to rap are more likely to accept a submissive role in a relationship, or accept violence from men.
Studies have also shown that the average heavy metal listener is more intelligent than the average pop music listener (but not as intelligent as classical music listeners), and more prone to violent behaviour.
And of course we know that all dance listeners are druggies, R&B listeners are thick as two short planks, and indie listeners are just unsophisticated metal fans... |
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:10 pm |
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Metal music = verbal ass spew
Study's= Unreliable and void of to many variables
Indie and hip hop= OK.... depending on what you define as Indie.... or Hip Hop... I like Radiohead and Rahzel
Also metal music is a bit "gay" alot of tight leather.... long hair.... lots of make up... and a shit load of cock rocking... nothing wrong with it if you like that sort of thing........ |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:41 am |
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| No pair No draw wrote: | | Also metal music is a bit "gay" alot of tight leather.... long hair.... lots of make up... and a shit load of cock rocking... nothing wrong with it if you like that sort of thing........ |
You're thinking of classic rock, not metal - get it right - and even those songs are mostly about girls and general lady-garden-related antics (see Kiss, Motley Crue, ACDC, Poison etc).
All this coming from a guy who recently posted gay porn on a poker forum! |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:18 am |
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| Quote: | All this coming from a guy who recently posted gay porn on a poker forum!
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LOL... I was wondering where that link had gone.
How can a bunch of fans who stand in a "mosh" and randomly jump head first into each other be more intelligent than..............errrrrrrr anyone? |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:54 am |
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| Alex wrote: | | Scott says this, but he has a CD in his car composed almost entirely of music from my computer - with Rammstein and Metallica on it! |
There are exceptions, Rammstein is one of them. I'd actually heard Rammstein before I knew you Alex and as for Metallica, well everyone likes Metallica, don't they?
Its when you play Death Metal and even worse Black Metal that I'm grateful I've got noise reduction earphones!  |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:11 pm |
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[quote="No pair No draw"] | Quote: | | How can a bunch of fans who stand in a "mosh" and randomly jump head first into each other be more intelligent than..............errrrrrrr anyone? |
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I've said it before and i'll prob say it again - i really dont get metal. If you could pick out any ounce of skill in it i might be persued to at least appreciate it but beyond it just noise. the singing esp. like vomiting noise in reverse.
ive heared pantera's pretty good tho. thats as far as i can stand. |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:15 pm |
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| Grunter wrote: | | No pair No draw wrote: | | Quote: | | How can a bunch of fans who stand in a "mosh" and randomly jump head first into each other be more intelligent than..............errrrrrrr anyone? |
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I've said it before and i'll prob say it again - i really dont get metal. If you could pick out any ounce of skill in it i might be persued to at least appreciate it but beyond it just noise. the singing esp. like vomiting noise in reverse.
ive heared pantera's pretty good tho. thats as far as i can stand. |
I can not find one thing that Ian has said that I disagree with! |
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:27 am |
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:31 pm |
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| Alex |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:56 pm |
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| Grunter |
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Alex wrote
| Quote: | | Metal music is more widely varied than any other genre on earth. There is Black Metal, Classic Metal, Death Metal, Doom Metal, Extreme Metal, Flamenco Metal, Funk Metal, Gothic Metal, Grindcore Metal, Hardcore Metal, Heavy Metal, Industrial Metal, Mathcore Metal, Nu Metal, Power Metal, Progressive Metal, Progressive Death Metal, Punk Metal, Rap Metal, Reggae Metal, Speed Metal, Stoner Metal, Thrash Metal, Viking Metal, Wank Metal and Zombie Metal |
LOL - half of those must be the same thing (whats the difference between death metal and doom metal?)
Your going way to off base here. I believe most people (myself anyway) were only saying that thrash/dead/cookie monster/...metal was rubbish. you can't include metalica, Nickleback (although still pish), RHCH, Audioslave, rage against the mashine, evenesence?? in that. Your just diluting the genre to be more accessible.
| Quote: | | I very much doubt that there is another genre on earth that is so rich and varied |
LOL, Then why does it all sound the same? - because the style of vocals doesn't lead to destictive songs unlike other genres of music)
Gave me a laugh though so well done.  |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:21 pm |
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| Alex |
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| Quote: | | whats the difference between death metal and doom metal? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_metal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_metal
| Quote: | | Your just diluting the genre to be more accessible |
Of course, which is the opposite of what you were doing when you lumped metal music all together. My point was there's a wide variety of different styles in rock and metal - it's not all Napalm Death stuff.
| Quote: | | Then why does it all sound the same? |
Have you learned nothing? Are you seriously suggesting that Cannibal Corpse, Evanescence, and Linkin Park are all the same? Nobody could argue that those bands are all metal.
| Quote: | | Gave me a laugh though so well done. |
That was my main motivation at least... and to educate you! |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:05 pm |
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I have to agree with Ian on this again, you really cant bring bands like Evanescence and Linkin Park into your argument, because if you have on titled this thread "there is nothing wrong with my music" and had a linkin park or Evanescence video in there do you really think it would hve got this much attention?
Some of the bands you have mentioned are generally mainstream, an average 15 year old will have heard of rage against the machine and metallica not many will have listened to Carcus world famous "genital grinder"
I dont think you can argue that people are lumping metal together, when you post a video of "cookie monster lyrics" you can hardly expect people to associate it with well known multi million selling bands.
All of the comments on metal are almost solely based on the types of videos you posted... how anyone can argue that the guy who sings the britney spears song has talent is beyond me. |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:38 pm |
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| Alex |
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So what Ian really meant to say is 'I really don't get extreme metal music like early Carcass and Britney Spears Death Metal Covers'? In that case, say that. Don't say 'i really dont get metal' and leave it at that.
Hell, even I don't like early Carcass. Nobody does!
Lumping an entire genre in with the badly produced noise on Carcass' first couple of albums is like musical racism. You wouldn't judge a race or culture based on the actions of one person*, so why judge a musical genre based on one band?
*even in Scotland! |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:45 pm |
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Alex, you knew what I meant - your just being pedantic to win an agument.
Only reason Linkin park and evenesence are even considered metal is so kerrang and alike can expand there readership numbers (to include 15 yr old 'rebels') to stay afload. Its not really proper 'metal'. |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:49 pm |
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| Alex |
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Of course I knew what you meant. I just like arguing. Especially when I'm right
Even if you don't like or agree with something, you should respect it. |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:31 pm |
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Cant do it, it'd be like respecting terrorism and gun crime. Dont agree with it but what the hey respect it none the less.
This is pretty harsh and a bit of a generalisation and wouldnt want to pin this situation on alex or accie, but there is more than a hint truth to it....
That niche genre of metal (not just one band either - slipknot (getting more extreme) etc etc - youve named a few) are just trying too hard to go against the grain to get attention.
The only people that listen to these bands are anonomous nobodys screaming for attention. It starts at school with the angst ridden 12 year old with no mates listening to my chemical romance and wearing black and when that doesnt work they move on to more extreme way to show individuality and seek attention but all theyre doing is alienating themselves more and more from mainstream society. |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:04 pm |
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Basically the only way to get attention these days is to be a bit different and controversial. It's not exclusive to metal music. All genres of music generate controversy and seek attention in different ways.
Metal bands go with extreme lyrics, looks and so on. Some go out of their way to be as 'heavy' as possible to generate that 'moral' uproar and the publicity that goes with it.
Pop singers generate controversy by making sexually provocative videos, appearing half naked in magazines, and 'accidentally' releasing 'stolen' sex tapes.
Rappers generate controversy with violent lyrics and imagery, sexism, and by toting guns in magazines and on album covers.
I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this! The music world would be very different if it wasn't for the media.
| Quote: | | The only people that listen to these bands are anonomous nobodys screaming for attention. |
How can you be both anonymous and screaming for attention?
| Quote: | | ...listening to my chemical romance and wearing black and when that doesnt work they move on to more extreme way to show individuality and seek attention but all theyre doing is alienating themselves more and more from mainstream society. |
At that age, I think kids just want to feel that they 'belong' to a group. Often, kids who are in a group of rock fans will dress in a stupid way just to show that they belong to that group. Adults tend to dress in a more conservative way that is less indicative of the social group to which they belong, but for teenagers the way you dress is a way of showing your identity.
I never really did the whole Goth thing, but I've been friends with many people who did. It's about a cameraderie and a shared love for something, not about being individual, or 'different'. Walk into a metal club, and you won't see many individuals in there at all - everyone looks pretty much the same for Christ's sake.
Is alienating yourself from 'mainstream' society really a bad thing? There's nothing more boring than somebody who conforms in every way, never has an opinion of their own, and spends their whole life trying not to upset anyone.
Hang on, did I just describe politicians?
What about when the mainstream changes? Today's mainstream is very different from that of twenty years ago. |
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:19 pm |
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What Ian has done (following on today's theme):
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:41 pm |
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